Hi,
Sorry to bother you again with such a question. This should be the last
of them, as I went through all the wishlist items (set up to track d-i
trixie things) people have been gathering lately.
We've had people prepare tasksel merge requests for two new desktop
environments, Lomiri and Phosh. Long story short, submitters thought
filing merge requests would be enough, didn't ping the team through mail
or through the BTS before the soft freeze, and we're way past the “no
new package in testing” point. Oops! :(
https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/tasksel/-/merge_requests/30 [Lomiri]
https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/tasksel/-/merge_requests/29 [Phosh]
From what I've just gathered, both desktop environments are supposed to
be in a good shape already (i.e. we're not talking about building
something new, from scratch, with bad or unknown quality), and at least
one of them is planning on asking for an exception on the debian-edu
side anyway (for education-desktop-lomiri).
Unfortunately, https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2025/05/ seems to
be stuck at 12:20 GMT Sat May 24, so I cannot link to the mail thread…
The following would give you the thread though:
ssh master.debian.org -t mutt -f /home/debian/lists/debian-boot/debian-boot.202505
l lomiri <enter>
I'm very ambivalent about this: there was some kind of lack of noticing
on the installer team part (but then as I explained in one of my
follow-ups, I don't think it's fair to expect people to notice and/or
act on all bug reports in the first place, even less so on merge
requests), but also some kind of a failure on the submitter side, not
poking us before the soft freeze began…
Besides feeling a bit guilty about the situation, I don't have any
strong opinion regarding what to do, so I thought I'd ask what you
think, and go with whatever decision you come up with: if the release
team calls this “too late, no good reason to deviate from the freeze
policy”, I'm perfectly fine with it; if the release team is fine with an
exception, I'm happy to get that reviewed, merged, and uploaded.
In the worst case, if we were to discover some incredibly bad install
experience for one or both of them, we could probably hide them from
the selection screen, without fiddling with the package list again.
[ I'm cc-ing debian-cd@ in case they have some arguments against those
possible additions. As mentioned in some other reply, I think the main
desktop-related topic we've had in the past was when we were building
(some) desktop-specific images, but we're no longer doing that. ]
Thanks for your time, and sorry again for the extra ping.
Cheers,
--
Cyril Brulebois (kibi@debian.org) <https://debamax.com/>
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant
Attachment:
signature.asc
Description: PGP signature