Dear Mehdi, On Wednesday 29 September 2010 22:30:04 Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > On 09/29/2010 08:40 PM, Jan Wagner wrote: > > On Wednesday, 29. September 2010, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > >>> * ndoutils is in lenny but dropped with squeeze (maybe without > >>> any strong reason) > >> > >> Never assume that! It was rc-buggy (#560681, causing some > >> data-loss) and that's why it was removed. Its maintainer didn't try > >> to get it back in testing. It has been out of testing for over than > >> 7 months now... > > > > 1.4b7-11 (which is also in stable) was removed at 2010-02-07. 1.4b9-1 > > was uploaded at 2010-02-17 which fixed the problem. So I don't see a > > reason for keeping it out of squeeze. > > That would have been possible until one month after the freeze. Now, > it's too late. Sorry, I don't get the reason behind your "decision". ndoutils is ~7 mounth in unstable without any problem, so it's mature enought for a stable release (the rc-buggy version is in stable anyways). On Wednesday 29 September 2010 15:28:09 Alexander Wirt wrote: > Mehdi Dogguy schrieb am Wednesday, den 29. September 2010: > > >* nagvis is broken (missing recommand) > > > > That doesn't mean that nagvis is broken, since it only recommends > > ndoutils-mysql. If it's a real runtime non-optional dependency, it makes > > nagvis RC buggy. > > nagvis can use several backends, currently ndoutils-mysql is the only one > that is available in debian. > > > >* ndoutils is in lenny but dropped with squeeze (maybe without any > > >strong reason) > > > > Never assume that! It was rc-buggy (#560681, causing some data-loss) and > > that's why it was removed. Its maintainer didn't try to get it back in > > testing. It has been out of testing for over than 7 months now... > > The maintainer is more or less MIA - we (as nagios team) now took over. > Shouldn't the package get automatically back into testing if the RC bug > fixed? > > > >* many 3rd party applications are based on ndoutils, so this will > > >have a significant effect for the nagios "ecosystem" on squeeze > > > > Nothing depends on it (unless I'm on crack), so how its removal can > > have a significant effect for the nagios "ecosystem" in Squeeze? > > Most 3rd party reporting tools and most homebrew thingys around that use > ndo. > > > >* popcon count is 235 > > > > Which is not high... > > It means that at least 20% of all nagios3 installations have it. Which > isn't that less. I would support the argumentation of Alex here and recommand to review it! I'm looking forward to a solution for our nagios user to release squeeze with ndoutils, as it means that we are actualy releasing without a central component of the Nagios Environment. Thanks and with kind regards, Jan. -- Never write mail to <firstname.lastname@example.org>, you have been warned! -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GIT d-- s+: a C+++ UL++++ P+ L+++ E--- W+++ N+++ o++ K++ w--- O M V- PS PE Y++ PGP++ t-- 5 X R tv- b+ DI D+ G++ e++ h---- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
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