Re: Etch timeline is unrealistic because non-free firmware is NOT being dealt with

[Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr>]

On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 07:39:21AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 06:49:32AM +0200, Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 04:46:09PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > > md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> > > 
> > > > On Aug 08, Thomas Bushnell BSG <tb@becket.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> We Do Not Distribute Non-Free Software No Matter How Much It Helps Our
> > > >> Users.
> > > 
> > > > Now think about why we do not do it.
> > > 
> > > It does not matter.  Different members of Debian have different
> > > reasons.  We have all agreed to work together on the basis of the
> > > Social Contract, which says that We Do Not Distribute Non-Free
> > > Software No Matter How Much It Helps Our Users.
> > 
> >   # Our priorities are our users and free software
> > 
> >   We will be guided by the needs of our users and the free software community.
> >   We will place their interests first in our priorities. We will support the
> >   needs of our users for operation in many different kinds of computing
> >   environments. We will not object to non-free works that are intended to be
> >   used on Debian systems, or attempt to charge a fee to people who create or
> >   use such works. We will allow others to create distributions containing both
> >   the Debian system and other works, without any fee from us. In furtherance
> >   of these goals, we will provide an integrated system of high-quality
> >   materials with no legal restrictions that would prevent such uses of the
> >   system.
> 
> Where do you read we allow ourselves to distribute non-free software for
> user convenience ?

Well, it reads to me that we won't screw our users without second thought like some
here are proposing.

But then, i repeat, everyone is very welcome to participate in solving this
the nice way, and i am highly impatient to see the extensive listings you and
others may produce, and then some plan on how to go forward from there.

Friendly,

Sven Luther