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Re: The powerpc port should be removed from etch release candidates ...



On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:16:15PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 03:17:26PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 01:34:00PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 01:39:27PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > > The debian installer netinst and businesscard images are now broken since
> > > > almost a month,
> > > 
> > > FYI I expect to be able to get this issue sorted out today/tomorrow. I
> > > was somewhat behind on debian-boot@ mail and hadn't realised it was a
> > > problem until aj drew my attention to it.
> > 
> > The last successfull build was on april 1, some 26 days ago or so.
> 
> Yeah, I know. That should be fixed with (a) me biting the bullet and
> updating my build machine over the modular X hill and (b) the d-i and

Maybe not kicking maintainers out would have helped too.

> debian-cd changes I committed over the last hour or two. I hadn't been
> paying attention to CD build logs; I'll know to do so in the future.

Cool. Still, i feel that this is the kind of responsabilities the d-i team
leader has to take over, and keep the oversight on the situation on all
arches, not just his pet ones.

> (Until mkvmlinuz figures out how to deal with prep on >= 2.6.16, of
> course, the powerpc CDs won't have prep support.)

Its not a mkvmlinuz problem, the problem is in the kernel itself, and will
probably be fixed for 2.6.17. I am watching this, and will try to do a
backport if something promising comes on. Not sure i will have the time to fix
it myself though.

> > Do you think that you will have the time and ressource to do a good job of
> > powerpc maintainership on d-i in the future ?
> 
> I should think so. My main problem of late has been an excess of broken
> CD drives on machines I care about (explaining why I wasn't paying
> attention to the CD builds), but I need to sort that out soon anyway.

This kind of thing should be automated, i believe that back in the days, joeyh
had a some tool to check for those, this could easily enough be used as a way
to aler the right people of failures of this kind.

> Obviously without having all the subarchitectures myself I can't do it
> entirely myself, and I welcome being pointed at bug reports I haven't
> noticed especially from users of those subarchitectures; but assuming
> continued kernel support I should be able to keep the existing set more
> or less going.

Yeah, the problem with debian/powerpc, is that most users will mostly give up
or try to hack a problem their own way (or ping me on irc or send me personal
mails), than go through the proper channels, so there is need for a more
pro-active kind of powerpc maintainership here.

> That's not to say, of course, that fresh porting blood wouldn't be a
> good thing.

Well, we should start by not kicking out people, would make this less of a
problem :/

BTW, what is your position on the yaboot orphaning ? You sound like the more
likely candidate to take that one over, altough i guess this means only one
more thing to worry for your ?

Friendly,

Sven Luther



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