On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 12:44:07PM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 11:13:50PM -0700, Joel Aelwyn wrote:
> > So, upon running into some issues with it recently, I pulled up the QA
> > page for zope-zwiki, and realized that it is, to put it mildly, "not in
> > great shape". This message is to check with Bastian as to whether he is
> > active, wants to keep zope-zwiki, and intends to update it (last upload
> > 2003-05-03, looks to have never made it into Testing due to bugs, and has a
> > Grave(security) bug open against it for 38 days now).
>
> If you'd have done some minimal checking[1], you'd have noticed that
> Bastian Blank is not Missing In Action, in any case.
To be frank, I don't consider the LDAP last-seen to be the only determiner
of MIA - especially not if something is in the state that zope-zwiki is,
without any maintainer comments in grave bugs for 1+ month. (I was also
having issues with the LDAP search, but I suspect that to primarily be user
error...)
Thus, I asked.
> I do agree that zoke-zwiki doesn't look in a good shape though. As
> currently a 0-day NMU policy is in effect for release-critical issues,
> you're free to use this policy to NMU the package (however, read on
> below).
>
> > If not, my intent is to package and upload a reasonably current version
> > (since 0.37 and 0.38 should both fix the security bug, and there appears
> > to be minimal use in fixing 0.18 as it is almost two years out of date),
> > including a pass through the bug list to tag or close those that appear to
> > be fixed by the new version.
>
> If you're not maintainer, you can always look through other people's
> buglists, and tag those bugs 'fixed' that you believe shouldn't be open
> anymore.
Both true - but updating the version is not suitable to an NMU, and as I
said previously, I don't feel that just patching the security issue on a
two year old release and trying to get that into our current release would
benefit anyone (seeing what can be done about a security update for Woody
is, of course, a different matter).
> > Since I need the package with relative speed, I'll be doing a local version
> > ASAP, but I will wait until someone can either confirm Bastian as being
> > a known MIA, or I get a response, to upload anything to the main archive
> > (honestly, it's in bad enough shape that I don't feel doing an NMU just to
> > have the default 1 week delay is going to do anyone much good). Instead,
> > I'll wait at least one week before kidnapping the package, more if folks
> > feel it is warranted.
>
> If you suspect people to be MIA, better contact mia@qa.debian.org with
> your suspection, as then _all_ packages need to get looked after. Also,
> people can be on vacation or just very temporarily away, and it's polite
> to give them a bit more time to react.
This also being why I asked the lists, since I had some recollection of
having seen Bastian's name recently, but it didn't seem consistant with the
bug state, so I wasn't sure I wasn't mixing up people.
> This is not the case here though, I asked Bastian Blank, and it appears
> to be a misunderstanding: Someone showed interest in the package quite
> some time ago, Bastian assumed he'd take care of it, but to day this
> someone didn't yet followup, with as result the current situation.
>
> In a moment I'm going to file an orphan bug, and set you as the adopter,
> so you can then adopt the package anytime you wish by uploading with
> "Adopted package (Closes: #the-bug-I'm-about-to-submit)", and meanwhile,
> you can really close bugs etc :).
>
> Most times, just mailing a maintainer privately works fine if you're
> concerned about a package, it doesn't happen really often the people
> don't reply at all.
True, and had the last upload not been two years ago, or the grave bug not
been as it stood, I probably wouldn't have done anything (at least for a
couple of weeks) other than that.
In any case, the above explains what's up, and I'll get to work on the
package. Bastian, my apologies if any of this came across as rude; that
really wasn't my intent.
--
Joel Aelwyn <fenton@debian.org> ,''`.
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