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Re: telnet, ftp, and ssl

On Thu, May 27, 2004 at 18:29:07 +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> Christoph Martin asked me to merge the SSL patches, that he maintains as
> separate packages (netkit-{telnet,ftp}-ssl and linux-ftpd-ssl), into the
> non-ssl source packages. After this change, telnet{,d}-ssl and ftp{,d}-ssl
> would be provided by the non-ssl packages (via multi-build and conditional
> patch applying).

Erm, what's the point of keeping non-SSL-capable packages? AFAICT the
SSL-capable packages can do everything the non-SSL-capable ones can. I'd
strongly prefer to see the regular "telnet" and "ftp" packages become
SSL-capable (and have proper Conflicts: and Replaces: for the older
"telnet-ssl" and "ftp-ssl" ones).

> However, I heard that package relationships in base are frozen.

Yes. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2004/03/msg00026.html .

> The packages in question are at most priority "standard" (not "required").
> Does the freeze affect them too?

I'm not sure, but my guess is they don't.

On Thu, May 27, 2004 at 19:36:36 +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> I might be missing something, but you are not proposing to change any
> *binary* packages of priority standard, aren't you?

If I understand Robert correctly, he's not proposing to change the
dependencies of the "ftp" and "telnet" binary packages. As I pointed out
above, I would like to see them changed (as a side-effect of improving them
by adding SSL capabilities), provided this doesn't mess up things for

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