Re: DEMOCRATICAL election of Codenames of Debian [Before "Re: And next name after Sarge? or PROPOSAL for Codenames' election"]
Xan, 2004-01-12 22:50:13 +0100 :
>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 07:31:02PM +0100, Xan wrote:
>> > In 07 Jan 2004 17:09, I wrote the following in Usenet, and it seems that
>> > anyone answered essentially that
>> > 1) I have to send this to "aj", the release manager, and that
>> > 2) it is a example of overengineered suggestion.
>> >
>> > Well, I have to say that it was a solution (perhaps overengineered) to
>> > achieve that the election of codenames of Debian were more
>> > democratically than now. I'm sad (and worry) that to no body likes
>> > this suggestion and overall the possibility that the choose of
>> > codenames were democratical.
>>
>> Why's that necessary?
>
> Why not?
Uh. So we should do things just because we can't find arguments
proving that they are not necessary?
> 1) It's a election of a non-technical part of Debian and I think
> that it's have to be made democratically. As if a group of persons
> have to make a decission, they vote the alternatives, it's natural
> to make the same in this case.
Okay. If things ever happen your way, I hereby delegate my vote to
the current release manager, and I encourage other Debian developers
to do so and spend their valuable time fixing bugs instead of voting
and arguing on something that insignificant.
> 2) With democratic election, aj will have less work.
aj, be honest: how much time have you spent choosing release
codenames, total, ever since you've become the release manager (which
is longer than I can remember)? I suspect something along the lines
of a couple of minutes. Oh, and Manoj (as project secretary) will
have *much* more work. Setting up, conducting, and controlling a vote
is not trivial. And you have to add it to the web pages. And
translate these pages.
> 3) It suggests interest by all the debian newbees:
> 1) It were fun by them
Can't understand that sentence.
> 2) It were clear that Debian is a distro made by and
> for the people.
Debien is made by Debian developers for the people. People
interested in helping are welcome to become Debian developers. I
believe the common opinion among current Debian developers is that a
release codename is insignificant, and the release manager is entitled
to decide over it.
> I don't say the contrary. I only said that we could elect the
> codenames democratically.
Again: what would we gain?
> Well, with this encourage and entusiasm, I will be charmed (?) to
> shout out!. You motivate that the newbee users (as me) only want be
> newbees, because always that they want to apport any idea, you
> critize (destructively) their ideas.
I can't see how we destruct your idea. You still haven't brought a
single valid argument for why we should be democratical over that
point.
Roland.
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Roland Mas
S'agirait pas d'atteindre la sublime transcendance du supramental sans
se bouger le fion un minimum... -- in Sri Raoul le petit yogi (Gaudelette)
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