Modestas Vainius <modax@debian.org> - Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:56:19 +0300 >Hello, > >On ketvirtadienis 21 Balandis 2011 11:31:21 Michel Briand wrote: >> Modestas Vainius <modax@debian.org> - Sun, 10 Apr 2011 14:15:07 +0300 >> >> >reassign 621921 phonon-backend-xine 4:4.6.0really4.4.2-1 >> >close 621921 4:4.6.0really4.4.3-1 >> >severity 621921 normal >> >retitle 621921 xine backend won't play files with non-ascii names in >> >non-UTF8 locales forwarded 621921 >> >https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172242 >> >tags 621921 squeeze >> >thanks >> > >> >Hello, >> > >> >On Sunday 10 April 2011 13:12:44 Michel Briand wrote: >> >> >Maybe somebody will build backports. Though it's troublesome as 4.4.4+ >> >> >has many changes. If I were you, I would switch locale to UTF-8. Do >> >> >not delay invetitable. >> >> >> >> Yes and no : when you have a legacy of hard drive / data you want to be >> >> able to access them even with the latest distro / software ! >> > >> >Maybe but it's a non-default configuration hence this bug is by no means >> >"very important". Switch locale to UTF-8 and use something like convmv to >> >convert filenames. Or, since this appears to be a xine backend problem, >> >you might as well switch Phonon backend to gstreamer or vlc. Or upgrade >> >to testing. >> >> I think saying that iso-8859-* filesystem is "non-default" >> configuration is really excessive. It's just legacy configuration. > >It is a non-default configuration because UTF-8 has been the default for two >Debian stable releases already. > >> I don't think that all data should be adapted because programs tend to >> lack proper support for it. This rationale is the worst thing for >> perennial computer systems. > >I have suggested a couple of options how to proceed forward in the previous >mails. Let's stick to that and start from there. Arguing about small details >and perceptions won't solve anything. > Hi Modestas, I don't want to argue about small details. Just about usability. Free software is for control not to be controlled. I have a lot of data, like a lot of people, and I want softwares to adapt rather than adapt my data... What would say your boss if you ask the datacenter administrators to "upgrade" (sic) all the file names ??? Best solution for a Debian user that don't want to bother with a long and delicate process : use another software to play all files (new & old, with file names in whatever encoding). I tried Exaile and it rocks. Glib considers all file names are UTF-8, but if you use G_BROKEN_FILENAMES or G_FILENAME_ENCODING you would have a better control [1]. Farewell Amarok... By the way I feel that most of KDE 4 programs have strong regressions. Best regards, Michel [1] http://developer.gnome.org/glib/stable/glib-running.html#G_FILENAME_ENCODING
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