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Bug#469204: kscreensaver-xsavers: please remove .desktop files and adjust dependencies on xscreensaver-*



On Monday 03 March 2008, Tormod Volden wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Sune Vuorela <debian@pusling.com> wrote:
> >  Wouldn't it have been much better to do:
> >
> >  xscreensaver (metapackage pulling in what xscreensaver used to)
> >  xscreensaver-core (core backend without hacks)
> >  xscreensaver-data (standard hacks)
> >  (and so on)
>
> That was an option, but we chose the other way. "Much better", I don't
> know, either way.

much better == don't give loads of extra work to other maintainers.

> >  You definately need a versioned conflicts in xscreensaver against all
> > versions of kscreensaver you are breaking with this change.
> >  Currently you are breaking kscreensaver, you are breaking partial
> > upgrades from etch and in general just annoying me.
>
> Yes, we can add the versioned conflicts. 

You have to. at least. or make xscreensaver provide the content it actually 
once did (maybe thru its dependencies)

> (How excellent satire.) I don't understand what ways you're using your
> own desktop files, but never mind. You probably just can get a small
> patch from Ubuntu - there kscreensaver-xsavers also ships own desktop
> files but seems to deal gracefully with hacks that are not installed.
> Some of your fellow co-maintainers should know the details.

The only thing ubuntu does is remove TryExec= calls from all desktop files.  
The only way to figure out what is actually insntalled. so they don't deal 
with it gracefully. They deal with it luckily.


> >  Any information please. It has worked very well so far - I see
> > absolutely no proper reasoning in what you write about this split.
>
> This is for the good for all of us. You are probably using KDE, but
> there's more out there. That it used to work for you didn't mean it
> was all perfect.

You still haven't told what problems it actually tries to solve.

> >  For me, it just looks like "we can split it - let's do it" - and even
> > done in a much breaking way.
>
> Let's don't get so dramatic. From what I saw from the report,
> kscreensaver did not break so terribly, just a few non-existing savers
> showed up in the preferences. If we really want to fix this quickly,
> just add dependencies to xscreensaver-data and
> xscreensaver-data-extra. However, once it's fixed properly, I suggest
> removing the dependency on xscreensaver-data-extra.

As we want to provide full functionality, I don't see why we should drop the 
dependencies later on?


/Sune
-- 
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You must forward from a coaxial AGP hard disk and from the control preferences 
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and from DOS NT you have to disable the cache for telnetting to a memory 
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