Bug#397073: konsole: not reading ~/.bashrc
On Mon November 13 2006 16:13, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> On Monday 13 November 2006 23:38, Bruce Sass wrote:
> > You seem to be doing a lot of guessing... :-/
> > which is why I am sending a copy to your Application Manager.
>
> Thank you. You are most welcome to show my application manager that I
> do a hard work on the kde bugs.
Or how you tackle reports about programs for which you have limited
knowledge---sessions are a key feature of konsole, they get their own
tab in the config dialog, yet you were unaware of them and blindly went
ahead tagging the report as unreproducible.
> > Kurt, please have a look at:
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=397073
> >
> > > If you read the bash manpage, it says that bash only read .bashrc
> > > when invoked interactively.
> >
> > Since when is a Konsole session not interactive?
>
> bash is not interactive when not connected to a terminal. This is
> bash behaviour, not konsole behaviour.
>
> From the bash manpage:
>
> An interactive shell is one started without non-option
> arguments and without the -c option whose standard input and error
> are both connected to terminals (as determined by isatty(3)),
> or one started with the -i option. PS1 is set and $- includes
> i if bash is interactive, allowing a shell script or a startup file
> to test this state.
Perhaps the underlying bug is that konsole is not properly identifying
itself as a terminal.
> > > and this is how bash is supposed to work - so this is not a bug
> > > neither in konsole or in bash.
> >
> > You are wrong.
>
> Please point me where.
Konsole should behave like any other x-terminal (which are
interactive), "sessions" are like "bash -c somecommand" (you have
admitted as much)... both point to .bashrc being read.
> > .bashrc is not some random configuration file, and a program should
> > not be required to read a shell's profile or runtime configuration
> > files!
>
> .bashrc is just a random canfiguration file. Just try ask any zsh
> user.
What does zsh have to do with Konsole putting "SHELL=/bin/bash" in the
environment?
> > I think you should remove the "wontfix" tags and get some help from
> > a knowledgeable DD, or send it upstream.
>
> I actually have discussed this with several knowledgeable DDs and
> they agree with me.
Then you should send it upstream because "sessions" are crippled... it
should not matter if one starts a "shell" session then types in a
command vs. uses a pre-defined session to start the command.
> Please stop being abusive.
How have I been abusive?
- Bruce
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