Bug#293246: kppp: dependency on ppp
El Miércoles 02 Febrero 2005 10:04, Michail Bachmann escribió:
> On Wednesday 02 February 2005 03:09, Christopher Martin wrote:
> > On February 1, 2005 18:23, Michail Bachmann wrote:
> > > The dependency on ppp changed from Recommends in 3.3.1-2 to Depends in
> > > 3.3.2-1.
> > >
> > > Since KDE ist perfectly useable on a LAN without ppp I dont understand
> > > the reason for changing this dependency.
> >
> > If you're on a LAN, why are you using kppp? It would be helpful if you
> > could explain your situation in more detail.
>
> Because unfortunately there is a dependency relation which leads to kppp:
> kde->kdenetwork->kppp.
You install the bazillion packages that kde depends and hesitate about ppp?
> Maybe it would be better if kdenetwork would only recommend kppp and not
> depend on it, but I can see a rationale in that decision, kdenetwork being
> a metapackage and used by different kind of users.
That's it, you can make happy everyone. Just make it "easy" the people who
needs it. These are the newbies, or just recent debian users.
> However I can not see the rationale in raising the dependency on ppp from
> Recommends to Depends. If you are a new user, you would use some frontend
> like aptitude to install kppp, so the Recommends dependency is strong
> enough and ppp will be installed. On the other hand a more advanced user
> still can ignore the recommendation if he knows he did not need it on his
> system.
If you are a new user you blame kppp and debian for not working because ppp is
not installed (and may be you do not know what ppp is). If you are a advanced
user you know what a metapackage is and you uninstall it to remove all
packages you do not need. I ever think kde metapackages means "Give me
everything, now!". Advanced users and minimal-installation-droids (as me)
usually do not need nor use these big metapackages (ie: kde)
> Changing the dependency does not improve the comfort using this package to
> a new user but will inconvenience a more advanced user.
Read above. Also the advanced user may understand debian should be "firendly"
with novices.
BTW, kppp without ppp is a nice window in your desktop useless.
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