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Re: GnomeMeeting 0.12.2 versus 0.85.1



Quoting Ola Lundqvist (opal@debian.org):

> > Now I too am wondering why 0.85 never made it into stable / testing.
> Probably because it was unable to build on some archs that it has
> been built for earlier.

Well.. 0.12.2-1 is in testing/stable now, buildd lists:

| 0.12.2-1 (powerpc) (latest build at Dec 9 21:34: successful)
| 0.12.2-1 (alpha) (latest build at Dec 9 23:14: failed)
| 0.12.2-1 (ia64) (latest build at Dec 9 23:41: successful)
| 0.12.2-1 (hppa) (latest build at Jan 8 00:00: failed)
| 0.12.2-1 (s390) (latest build at Dec 10 04:55: successful)
| 0.12.2-1 (arm) (latest build at Dec 11 19:20: successful)
| 0.12.2-1 (sparc) (latest build at Dec 10 16:16: successful)
| 0.12.2-1 (mipsel) (latest build at Jan 16 12:25: failed)
| 0.12.2-1 (m68k) (latest build at Feb 9 04:31: successful)

Three failed builds, rest successful. 
For 0.85.1-6, latest Gnome1 version ever released:

| 0.85.1-6 (ia64) (latest build at Jun 10 17:39: successful)
| 0.85.1-6 (alpha) (latest build at Jun 10 06:04: failed)
| 0.85.1-6 (s390) (latest build at Jun 10 07:20: successful)
| 0.85.1-6 (powerpc) (latest build at Jun 10 06:25: successful)
| 0.85.1-6 (arm) (latest build at Jun 10 17:40: successful)
| 0.85.1-6 (m68k) (latest build at Jun 15 01:21: successful)
| 0.85.1-6 (hppa) (latest build at Jul 11 11:30: successful)

One fail, and two misses (sparc & mipsel).
Why wasn't 0.85.1 accepted into stable then?  

Where can I read about what exact criteria a package has to comply to, 
to get accepted into testing? 

> > I might have a clue tho. Since $upstream switched to Gnome2 with v0.9x
> > releases of GnomeMeeting while I was still packaging v0.8x releases of
> > GnomeMeeting, I decided it would not be nice to force all users of
> > GnomeMeeting to switch to the Gnome2 version while Gnome2 at that time
> > was very unstable and expirimental, so I created a new package called
> > gnomemeeting2, which surprisingly brought people the Gnome2 version.
> This sounds more like an indication on why it should made it into
> testing and stable.

To me too. But sadly it didn't get included. And now I have an angry
upstream and a lot of sad users. We're putting up an 'unofficial
apt-source' on gnomemeeting.org though, but it's not the way to go (TM).

> > [ maybe get 0.85.1 in stable & testing ]
> In stable would probably not be accepted. Testing should be possible
> just fix the current issues that hold it back. :)

Now you're talking about me getting the 0.9x version of gnomemeeting
into testing. This seems like an impossible task for me, if you take a
close look at:

  http://qa.debian.org/debcheck.php?dist=unstable&package=gnomemeeting
  
You can see that the reason why gnomemeeting isn't accepted relies on
the fact that tons of dependencies are unavailable at other
architectures. 

> > I myself, and Damien think it's better for Debian to have v0.85.x.
> Or the one in unstable. :)

That's almost impossible and would not help that much. For me and Damien
it's more the problem that stable comes with an outdated 0.12.2 release
while there have been other releases in the meanwhile and we do not
understand why 0.85 never made it into the current stable release of 
Debian.

Kind regards,
Sander.

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