On May 29, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> wrote: > On May 29, 2014 7:54:53 PM EDT, Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> wrote: >> I'm looking again at updating tox to the latest upstream 1.7.1. Along >> the >> way, I'd like to make /usr/bin/tox a Python 3 script. >> >> This requires that virtualenv be importable, e.g. `$python -m >> virtualenv`. It >> is today in Python 2 since /usr/bin/virtualenv is a Python 2 script and >> we >> only build it for one version of Python. I want to change that too, so >> that >> at least we build the virtualenv modules for both Python 2 and 3. I'd >> like to >> switch /usr/bin/virtualenv to be Python 3 as well, and I'd like to >> tackle the >> vendorizing issue similar to how we fixed it with ensurepip, since we >> have all >> the wheels we need now. > ... >> Thoughts? >> -Barry > > I'd rather remove the wheels we have and give up on ensurepip than start down this slippery slope. > > Wheels are an ugly solution for us to work around upstream doing things that can most charitably be described as fixing problems we don't have. No more. > > Scott K Eh, it’s not true that users of Debian do not have the problems that ensurepip solves. Perhaps *you* don’t personally have them but anyone whose ever needed to install a set of Python packages that Debian either doesn’t package, or packages the wrong version of them have the problems that virtualenv/venv solves and virtualenv/venv without pip is practically worthless. ----------------- Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA
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