Re: pythonX.Y maintenance team
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 23:35, Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:04:33 PM Sandro Tosi wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 22:50, Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> wrote:
>> > On Thursday, April 12, 2012 10:20:04 PM Sandro Tosi wrote:
>> >> To give a (fresh) example and what I meant above, you can try to
>> >> answer this provocative question: Why Ubuntu has Python 2.7.3 since
>> >> more than 2 days (even before it was publicly announced) while Debian
>> >> is still stuck with a RC, FingTBFS on 4 archs version?
>> >
>> > Probably because Ubuntu is a day before final freeze for a release. I
>> > virtually always upload stuff to Debian first where I'm the Debian
>> > maintainer for a package, but there are legitimate reasons why in some
>> > cases that's not the best way to go about it.
>>
>> exactly my point as in "that usually means there are different priorities
>> when working for Debian over Ubuntu"
>>
>> > We all get busy with $DAYJOB every now and then and that's OK.
>>
>> funny how in this case the dayjob overlaps the "hobby", so I guess one
>> could have achieved the best for both distro with minimal effort (as
>> the changelog for previous syncs suggest) but decided to just go with
>> one only.
>
> It's not that simple. Depending on the timing of various processes in
> Debian/Ubuntu there can be a substantial (as much as a day) delay from Debian
> upload to when a package can be synced into Ubuntu. When you're only two or
> three days from a freeze, that can be unacceptable.
I see; another point for having Debian maintainers whose main interest
is making Debian the best distro.
> FWIW, I saw him discussing it on #debian-release at least briefly today.
well, he was asked (sorry, I don't have that line of log here) when
python will start building again, and the only reply was
<doko> jcristau, sure, just disabling the tests ... but please ask
port maintainers as well. I now got some feedback from kfreebsd
porters
(still on the line of
http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/python2.7/news/20120405T171854Z.html
where FTBFS are "delegated" to porters but without notifying them
first)
but he was also pointed out that:
<pinotree> doko: i guess the one to ask, as maintainer of said source,
should be you
then nothing else; not exactly a discussion, but oh well
> BTW, it is just this kind of nitpicking that I think would make a *defaults
> team with doko and an interpreter team with you problematic.
non sequitur: it doesn't show how python*-default <-> pythonX.Y
interactions would be problematic, only that, IMO, pythonX.Y is poorly
maintained in Debian, since nothing has changed on that side.
Cheers,
--
Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu)
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