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Re: python packaging infrastructure



On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 10:52:43AM -0500, Frank Wierzbicki wrote:
| > At least jython isn't an issue anymore (orphaned, and
| > new upstream snapshots available)
| Hi Matthias,
| 
| I am (recently) the primary maintainer of the (upstream) Jython
| project.

I'm glad to see someone is working on it.  An alpha release is not a
good place to stop.  I look forward to seeing the results of your work
at keeping Jython alive.

| I'm also a big fan of Debian.  The next release of Jython
| will depend on either Python 2.2 or Python 2.3, if it gets packaged
| the way Jython 2.1 is currently packaged (with dependencies on the
| Python libs).

I think it was a good idea at the time to avoid duplicating all of the
pure-python modules in the standard library.  However, given that
Jython's development hasn't kept pace with CPython I think that
eliminating the dependency would be a better choice now.

| Is this the right mailing list for discussing Jython on
| Debian?  Or is debian-java the better place?  I lurk in both...

I think both will be applicable for Jython as it falls under both
descriptions.

| Anyhow, I hate to see Jython orphaned, perhaps down the road (after
| the next Jython release) I'll come back to find out what it takes to
| take over the package maintenance of Jython in Debian.

I'd like to see Jython remain alive, at least until PyPy is mature
enough to replace it.  Have you looked at PyPy?  Architecturally it
sounds a lot like gcc except its "front-end" is for python only.  It
should be practical to create Java templates for PyPy to use in the
backend to produce a python implementation that executes in a JVM.  It
should also require less manpower to keep the implementation
working and up-to-date.

-D

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