-=| Alexander Reichle-Schmehl, Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 08:45:49PM +0200 |=- > Hi DebConf orgas, Hi, I don't consider myself authorized to speak for the rest of the team, but since I was involved in the announce, I'll try to explain the situation as I see it. > … I'll show you a very positive > example of cooperation between Debian's release team and Debian's > Publicity and Press team, when new Point Releases are announced. > > Weeks before an point release is created, they ask at email@example.com, > if we will be available on the planed date, to send out the > announcement. … > > Usually a week before the announcement has to be sent out, they contact > us again, with details of the desired content - actually they do even > more: … > > On the day the point releases are done, they also keep us updated about > their progress, and when they consider it safe to send out the > announcements. … > > From our point of view, that's a perfect workflow! (Sigh) I can only envy for this kind of organization. > Now compare that with the DebConf Orga Team. On the evening of the 7th > I got hilighted on IRC, which I only saw the next morning, when I was at > work. I didn't found any details or timeline, but got some pointers to > a wiki page (which only seemed to me like some notes, not even a draft > for an announcement and still had some questions in it) and a pointer to > last years announcement 'for the usual blub' IIRC. As I was at work I > didn't had much time to actually do something, so I do, what I usually > do, when I'm not aware that something is urgent: I ask to contact the > publicity team via the list or the irc channel. > > So I was quite suprised, when I looked at my mails this midday, and > found, that the announcement (which IMHO still needed some improvements) > has already been sent out. Without any coordination with us. We needed the announce out. A week ago the latest. We didn't know that weeks earlier, we didn't know even two days before the announcement was sent that it will be sent a couple of days later. Does this mean we need to improve? Certainly! How? I'll let others say. The main problem I see is that most people don't have enough time/energy to stay on top of things and there are too many things to stay on top of. > I hope you understand, that it is quite frustrating for me to see > press related work fail year after year. I have no idea, why > cooperation between your team and us seems to be impossible... Well, I think this is not a complete surprise, comparing the well-oiled machine the press team is with the chaotic gang we are. Your frustration is quite understandable, really. > So, if anyone reading this has an idea, what's going on or how to > improve things, feel free to speak up, I'm willing to listen. But by > now I've lost all energy and interst in trying to try to improve things. Your mail is a step in the right direction, reminding of the reocurring problem. Thanks!
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