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Bug#1043539: project: Forwarding of @debian.org mails to gmail broken



Hallo! Du (Russ Allbery) hast geschrieben:

>The problem I suspect is with email forwarding, and specifically email
>forwarding to Gmail, which has recently ramped up the amount of
>verification it does on messages.  Because of email forwarding, Gmail sees
>a message purportedly from helgefjell.de but actually delivered by
>debian.org mail servers, and has now decided to be suspicious of that.

>If that's correct, you'll only have this problem with Debian developers
>who forward their @debian.org addresses to Gmail.  Gmail handles some
>large percentage of all email on the Internet, so this probably isn't
>rare, but Debian developers are less likely to use it than random Internet
>users for obvious reasons, so it doesn't surprise me you've not run into
>the problem before.  (In other words, I doubt this is a problem with your
>local configuration.)

As listmaster i can confirm that it is a big problem to deliver Mails to
gmail/outlook/yahoo. Yahoo Subscribers are mostly gone by now because they
bounced a lot, for gmail it is so much that we just ignore bounces because of
those rules. 

If you decide to handle your mails to be curated by someone else you have to
live with an incomplete mailbox. 

| helgefjell.de descriptive text "v=spf1 ip4:142.132.201.35 mx ~all"

so you flagged your mail has to come from that IP (or the MX) and from other
sources it should be considered suspicious.

Thats the result.

SRS/ARC and so on are just dirty patches that try to fix things that were
broken before, but they will break even more things like Mail signing.

As long as we have this Oligopol that doesn't care about what they send out
(i.e. Spamfloods through Outlook) things will only get worse.

Cord


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