Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> wrote on 06/06/2022 at 21:55:40+0200: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2022 at 09:37:27AM -0500, Shayan Akbar wrote: >> Hello Debian folks, >> >> As someone who depends on the Debian project a lot in my daily life, I >> cannot seem to let this idea go... Can the linux project fall? >> >> How does the project maintain itself against the man's intrinsic need to >> control and own? >> >> How many years can it stay strong and stay a free operating system >> benefiting billions? > > We are doing well. The RPM world is collapsing -- Red Hat pretty much > committed suicide, it had ~70% of the market but chosen only fat lucratious > corporate clients, who grant mucho $$$s but these days development is so > open that the NDA world is not enough to sustain enough upstream work to > prevent Red Hat from rapidly shrinking. The CentOS debacle was quite the > fat lady singing. They follow the Solaris tracks both in scheme and timing > -- first market share loss, then buyout by a corporation known for > nickle-and-diming, then hiring freeze, then last free release, then... > The track is set. Is sad to see them go but I have little hope. Fedora is > merely Red Hat-unstable. SuSE is quite independent and, while small, does > enough own development to possibly survive Red Hat's collapse. But IBM's > Red Hat... it'll have several great quarters then go down the hole that > swallowed SCO, HP-UX, IRIX, Solaris, etc... > > The popcorn world: Gentoo, Slack, Arch, Alpine -- they do produce quite a > bit of innovation that _is_ relevant, but as for number of users -- naah, > they hardly count. > > Ubuntu on the other hand is WTF-level unstable. First the Unity/GNOME > disaster, then they totally snapped over, then their last LTS is so buggy it > tends to randomly crash whatever I do, especially on !x86. Ppc64el falls > apart, when I tried to use vectorscan:arm64 it had heisenbugs not > reproducible on Debian, etc. I may need to touch Ubuntu for work stuff > porting, but as an user, on random hosting VMs, I'm gone. Crossgrading > to Debian is an instant fix that brings stability and when not paid, I'm > not going to spend my copious free time to debug Ubuntu bugs. > > What we do suffer though, is insane politics. > > > Meow! That's… a bit salty. Not that it's wrong, but some things could probably be nuanced. Cheers! -- PEB
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