On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 08:51:30AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> It sounds like you are hearing me as disagreeing with *you* and not with
> some combination of your ideas and how they are presented.
> I'd like to offer to sit down virtually and work through this.
> I don't want to come across as hostile, and I hope that we would both
> choose to avoid frustration or worse building between us.
>
> However my experience is that mailing lists are not the best media for
> working through things when perceptions of hostility get involved.
> If you'd be open I propose that we get together on IRC or phone (with a
> third party if that would make you feel more comfortable) and see if we
> can work to a place where you feel valued, even if we don't get to a
> place where we are in agreement on everything.
> After I'd be happy to come back to the list, express any regrets and
> summarize what I've learned about how to approach this situation without
> creating negative feelings.
>
> If you are open to this, let's coordinate a time off-list.
Sam, you accused Olek of derailing the situation, which (AFAICS) he disagrees
with, and now you are "offering" to solve this problem by Olek investing
more time to solve a problem that doesnt also in my book doesnt exist.
btw, I could also say you Sam are derailing Enricos thread as well, voila.
Olek replied how/when keysigning is important to them, with a concrete use-case
(sponsoring uploads), which IMO is a very fine use case of key signing
and I am puzzled about your response of cornering into counceling his behaviour.
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cheers,
Holger
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