On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 07:20:41PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > On 1/9/19 5:39 PM, Josh Triplett wrote: > > Anthony Towns wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 10:47:05AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > > People seem to feel they're unreasonably put-upon by having to think about > > > > what they're saying *at all*, but this is absurd. Everyone else in the > > > > world is doing this all the time. > > > There are times when you don't have to think about what you're saying > > > before you say it; that situation is often called being "among friends", > > > or "in a safe space", or "able to let your guard down". > > If you have to have your "guard up" to avoid hurting people, you have a > > more fundamental problem. > > It really *isn't* that hard to just think about the effect of your words > > on others *all the time*. As Russ said, that's a fundamental skill. > > Debian is not a locker room. > On the other hand, when did people get so thin skinned, and offended by > everything? > I came across this in a FreeBSD community discussion of similar issues: https://notablelife.com/our-generation-needs-to-stop-being-offended-by-everything-and-learn-how-to-take-a-joke/ > - a good read. > One paragraph, that nails it: "The thing is, people are often offended by > things that are so minimal compared to the actual problems in the world to > which they turn a blind eye. You don’t tend to see many people being > ‘offended’ by the fact that there are starving children in third world > countries, or making rambling Facebook posts about how access to clean water > offends their sensibilities. Yet the second a joke or an ad is slightly > offside in their eyes, they lash out like they’ve been a victim of the > greatest injustice known to humankind." That's because the vast, vast majority of people have the residual decency to not open their fat mouths and argue in public that people don't *deserve* to have access to food and clean water, whereas there is a quite high number of assholes who feel no shame at treating someone as less-than on the basis of irrelevant intrinsic characteristics. So, you know, take some personal responsibility for things you say that are offensive, and everything'll be ok. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer https://www.debian.org/ slangasek@ubuntu.com vorlon@debian.org
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