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Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main

On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 01:53:22PM +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > > I would like to establish a way to prevent this.  (There are even
> > > whole Debian derivatives who have as one of their primary goals,
> > > preventing this.
> > 
> > No, those derivatives are damage.  While their hearts are in the right
> > place, they cause data loss and security holes by at least making people on
> > Intel and AMD machines use known-buggy microcode.
> I think it's very rude to call something damage just because you
> disagree with someone's political stance with respect to the software
> they un on their own computer.
Adam spoke about derivative users, not derivative developers, though.

> Also, if you care so much about this you should probably worry about
> Debian's current default approach to microcode.
We do. But it will require a GR and a flamewar to fix things, most likely.

> > The biggest reason for me
> Debian ought to be a good upstream for everyone, not just "me"
> (whoever me is).
Our users are declared our priority, our downstreams aren't.


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