On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 03:59:57PM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: > The above has nothing to do with beliefs. Beliefs are about people who believe > that using non-free services is better for some ethical reason. Do such people exist or that's a straw man? > So I agree with the illness statement (although I don't think "illness" is a > good word for it): if people (believe they) need non-free software, we should > try to make free alternatives better. Yes, we should, instead of preaching and scolding. > None of this means we should tell people they can't use non-free software, but > it may mean suggesting free alternatives (as was done in the post that started > this discussion). I'll quote the relevant part of the post that started this discussion: """ 2. The data has to be entered in Google Docs / Google Forms. Excuse me, but weren't you saying you are reaching out to Free Software projects? I do not see why, as a Free Software contributor, I should act upon a mail that looks as close to simple spam as it can get and asks me to enter stuff into an insecure, untrusted and non-free application. """ No free alternative was suggested here. Not to mention "insecure and untrusted" which can probably be classified as FUD (as that's equally applicable to most free alternatives, I guess). > The problem with services such as Google docs and YouTube is that the site > owner allows the service provider to violate the privacy of the visitors. This > shouldn't be a decision that the site owner is allowed to make. This, of course, has nothing to do with four freedoms or with your favorite definition of "free". -- WBR, wRAR
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