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Bug#772645: lists.debian.org: Please create debian-moderation@lists.debian.org



Package: lists.debian.org
Severity: wishlist

Hello,

with the adoption of the code of conduct, more and more people started
to respond to persons who do not follow its spirit, to let them know
that the message was inappropriate in one way or another. Some do it
publicly and other do it privately.

This is good. Unfortunately, when such a message is sent publicly on the
same mailing list, it oftens degenerates in a small sub-thread.

This is bad because it generates useless tension and because its
brings down the signal/noise ratio on the given list. At the same time,
those discussions are also necessary to have some balance and remember
collectively that we do not want to over-regulate our mailing lists
either.

Thus I would like to have a new mailing list called
"debian-moderation@lists.debian.org" that moderators (i.e. contributors
who are telling others that their behaviour was inappropriate, or
contributors refuting such claims) would use. The complaint would go the
interested person and would be carbon copied to this list.

This has multiple benefits:
- people acting as moderators get a better feel of what can be done and
  what can't be done (by following what others are doing they auto-regulate
  themselves)
- listmasters can monitor the list to detect regular offenders and take
  more informed decisions for (temporary) bans
- meta-discussions no longer pollute our work mailing lists

To not exclude moderators who are unwilling to send complaints publicly,
I believe that the mailing list should be private (but archived with
archives accessible to DD only) and only open to Debian developers by
default. Possibly non-DD could join but they would need the invitation of
a DD.

A copy of this mail is sent to debian-project, both to have some public
discussion of this idea (in that case, please do not keep the bug in
copy), and to sollicit a few "ack" from other DD who are already
doing that kind of moderation work (or would like to start doing it in a
more organized way).

Thank you.

FTR, this idea was initially submitted in a debian-private thread
discussing the code of conduct.
-- 
Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer

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