Re: We have made the mistakes, so what now? (was: State of the project
Matthew Vernon writes ("Re: We have made the mistakes, so what now? (was: State of the project"):
> *please* reply to me on -project not -private, trimming the text I quote
> (which is just a little at the top of this message).
As you wish...
> I would like to propose a metric before we contribute to contentious
> discussions: "would the other party in this argument recognise their
> position from how I describe it?"
> The systemd folk within Debian are not trying to turn Debian into a
> GNOME desktop monoculture (regardless of whether or not upstream are
> trying such a thing).
> The people who proposed the current GR are not trying to ban systemd or
> force Debian's systemd maintainers to do loads of work for them. They
> are not in favour of MikeUSA and obnoxious trolls like him.
> Post asserting either of these things (there have been a lot) or even
> stronger caricatures do *nothing* to help - they only contribute to the
> current poisonous atmosphere.
> DDs are trying to make Debian better. We don't all agree on exactly what
> "better" is all the time, but we should always do each other the
> courtesy of remembering this.
> Whatever the outcome of this GR, let's try and work *together* to make
> Debian better, and try extra-hard not to see the people who voted
> against us as the enemy.
... I absolutely agree with everything Matthew has said.
I'd also like to thank Sam Hartman for his excellent message "Systemd
Discussions--The Good Parts" posted earlier.