Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Hi, Miles Fidelman:Personally, I think Ian's statement is spot on. [...] The stream of negative reactions is even more revealing of the state to which the community has devolved.Ah. In other words, basically, denying that a conspiracy is going on is in itself a confirmation of the conspiracy theory.
Huh? Who said anything about conspiracy or not? Personally, I see it as arrogance, a couple of developers with an agenda and salaries behind them, pushing an agenda, and way to many fanboys and apologists, and way too many people standing aside and letting a snowball roll downhill. No conspiracy needed at all. Just the worst of human behavior coming to the fore.
This is a large chunk of the reason why nobody "in the systemd camp" wants to listen any more. Any real problems or concerns you might have with the direction the systemd ecosystem is going in just get lost in the noise anyway, so why bother?
Nah, nobody in the systemd camp was ever listening, and not enough people called them on it. It's been a long time since any of this discussion has been for them. It's been for those who might act to change things.
Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra