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Re: Sponsoring a Tails hackfest?

Hi Lucas,

On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 08:43:07AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:

> The Tails project is a Debian-based live system focusing on privacy and
> anonymity. For more information about Tails and their relationship with
> Debian, see:
> https://tails.boum.org/
> https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Census/Tails
> https://tails.boum.org/contribute/relationship_with_upstream/
> https://tails.boum.org/contribute/how/debian/
> http://www.wired.com/2014/04/tails/

> Tails is organizing a two-day hackfest and a contributors summit in
> July. They are requesting sponsorship from Debian for the events, in
> order to cover travel costs for contributors. Their overall budget is
> between 10kEUR and 20kEUR.

> Given that:
> - they are a derivative working closely with Debian (and being a live
>   system, having their own public identity makes sense)
> - they are doing a lot of their work in Debian -- the hackfest could be
>   seen as a Debian sprint
> - they are addressing important issues, and clearly contribute to Debian
>   having something to say about such issues

> I am planning to allocate 5000 EUR.

As you say, this is a derivative, rather than a pure blend.  While Tails
seems to be doing great work, and I'm happy that they're trying to work
closely with Debian, the fact that they *are* a derivative rather than a
pure blend makes me question spending Debian money on this.

Nothing says a pure blend couldn't have its own public identity, and if they
were a pure blend, I would have no concern about the expenditure.  But since
it's a derivative rather than a pure blend, how do we know that in /this/
case, the work at the sprint is going to benefit Debian?  The website has a
very admirable statement about minimizing the delta with Debian, but is the
size of this delta published and tracked anywhere?

Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
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slangasek@ubuntu.com                                     vorlon@debian.org

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