On Sun, 2014-01-19 at 01:01 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > [ M-F-T set to email@example.com, not seeking sponsors yet see below. ] > > Hi! > > I think that forcing a decision through the TC at this time was very > premature and inappropriate, because I don't think enough effort had > been made to reach consensus (failing §6.3(6)), What would you consider to be enough effort? > because the TC seems to have been trying to do design work (failing > §6.3(5)), Did you also read the last sentence of that parargraph? > and because even if they do have the power to decide on this (likely > requiring a 3:1 majority in any case if they need to override the > sysvinit maintainers, per §6.1(4)), The main change required to sysvinit would, I assume, be to remove the Essential flag. I do not think that use of the Essential flag is at the discretion of the package maintainer by default. > I feel it's inappropriate for a small group > of individuals to forcibly decide the global direction for the entire > project. Important as the init system is, it does not 'decide the global direction for the entire project'. > Such decisions, on issues that are as much technical as > strategic, political or of a subjective design nature, can have huge > implications for what contributors or other Debian-based projects > might have to work on, or stop working on. On the contrary, I think such decisions are precisely what the Technical Committee is for. [...] > In general, I've been quite unhappy with the excessive invocation of > the TC recently, with developers seeming to view this as a first, > rather than absolute last, resort. [...] Constitutionally, a GR is the last resort in that it can overrule every other decision. A GR can settle a decision finally but does *not* create consensus. So if you honestly think that more time should be allowed for a consensus to arise, perhaps you should propose a GR that says this issue is not ripe for the TC to decide on and sets some minimum delay before it can be brought to the TC again. Ben, -- Ben Hutchings friends: People who know you well, but like you anyway.
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