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Re: Slowdown problem of a Debian package



hello shigio.

where can i find more discussion of the following concern, raised in
the #574947 bugthread?

ron@debian.org wrote, on 2013-03-06 (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=574947#59):

I cannot feel comfortable about introducing a new interface for
end-users that requires them to run a freshly generated script, from
an unsecured directory, as root, as part of normal invocation and
use, from distro packaged software.

I expressed my concerns about this to you already, and Taisuke
Yamada also proposed some alternatives, all of which you dismissed.

Do you have a new solution for this that might be more acceptable?

in your response in that thread, you object that ron's concern is
off-topic.

it seems like a grave concern.  is it addressed elsewhere?

i read with interest the discussions on the four bug reporting threads
you cite, but found no further mention of the issue.

forgive me if i have overlooked something obvious.

best,
wes


On Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Shigio YAMAGUCHI wrote:

Hello all,
I have a serious problem which is concerned with a Debian
package. It is also a problem for Debian, I believe.

If this mail is out of place, I will apologize. Although I
looked at all mailing lists of Debian, I could not find
any other list than here for this issue. Would you please
tell me where I should tell it?

	-----

1. Who am I?

I'm one of developers of a software named 'GLOBAL'. It is
a tool for programmers to read source code of software.

	[GLOBAL web site]
	http://www.gnu.org/software/global/

Debian includes it as a package.

	[Debian package]
	http://packages.debian.org/sid/global

I am not a member of Debian project and am not also a user of
Debian.

2. What is the problem?

GLOBAL package of Debian is too old. Since the maintainer
doesn't update it, and is not going to resign the post,
it is still old.

As a result, many of Debian GLOBAL users are continuing
using a very old version in all innocence. They are still
afflicted by bugs which was fixed many years ago.

3. Details

3.1 Current status

Current GLOBAL package of Debian is based on GLOBAL-5.7.1
which was released about 5 years or more before. It is greatly
inferior to the latest one (GLOBAL-6.2.8) in both quality and
performance.

	version         release date       comment
       -----------------------------------------------------
       GLOBAL-5.7.1    April 21 2008      Debian package
       GLOBAL-6.2.8    February 28 2013   latest version
       -----------------------------------------------------

3.2 The maintainer's action

Since 2010, some people asked the maintainer frequently to
update the package. However, he ignored them. (Please refer
to the thread [1][4] added to the end of this mail.)

A person offered him taking over of his work; But he rejected.
(thread [2])

This March, I suggested to him that the package should be
orphaned; There is no response (thread [1]). Since there is no
sign of his activities, I sent a bug report to orphan it.
Then, he closed the bug immediately (thread [3]).

4. My wish

My wish is that more debian users can enjoy newer GLOBAL.

Though I hope negotiated settlement, it became difficult.
Because the maintainer has sunk into silence. I would like to
ask you to solve the problem.

5. Conclusion

The problem above is not a mere trouble between two programmers,
but a serious obstacle for Free Software. Because Debian users
are forced to use old software without any explanation.
I guess that there are such other cases.

Debian Social Contract says:

       "2. We will give back to the free software community"

However, what was "given back to" us from Debian was a gloomy
thing. Could you please recognize the problem and take appropriate
measures?

Thank you for your time to read my poor English.
Regards,

Shigio YAMAGUCHI

References:
[1]     Subject: global: newer release (5.9.2) is available
       http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=574947
[2]     Subject: global.cgi fails to work with id-utils extension.
       http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=590053
[3]     Subject: O: global -- Source code tagging system
       http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=704508
[4]	global: Current Debian package is too old
	http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=711040

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