Re: Proposed changes to the Debian Machine Usage Policy (DMUP)

[Gerfried Fuchs <rhonda@deb.at>]

	Hi!

 Readding IMHO relevant quote for Alexanders Question:

* Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org> [2010-05-03 10:45:59 CEST]:
> On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 09:55:31AM +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
>> On 02.05.2010 16:45, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
>>> the Debian Project Leader recently asked DSA in his delegation[1] to
>>> fix a flaw in the current version of the DMUP, the fact that
>>> expulsions are DAM's domain, and not our's.
>>
>> Could you please explain, why this is a flaw?
> 
> I think that I should do that, but first let me quote the "Comments"
> section of the delegation text, as it was precisely my attempt at
> explaining that:
>
> > The first proposed limit to what can be changed by DSA is meant to fix
> > a "flaw" in the current text. Decisions over Debian membership are
> > already a responsibility of DAM and, especially considering the need
> > of changing the DMUP, it is better not to mix that responsibility with
> > DSA (as a paranoid mind can imagine DSA changing DMUP *precisely* to
> > have a specific developer expelled ...).  Note that this limit means
> > that the current DMUP text is outside the rules and should hence be
> > fixed ASAP.

 Then I think Martin has a bit unfortunately worded his statement - it
sounds a bit that he thinks that expulsion should be DSA's domain. I
hope this is a misunderstanding, and the rest of the thread also looks
like expulsion should still be DAM's domain, account locking should be
DSA's domain.

 Thanks for confirming that we only had a misunderstanding in several
parts here in advance!

 So long!
Rhonda