Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 05:44:58PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:51:35AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Also in many cases, Ubuntu and Debian teams can't fully collaborate
> > because they do not target the same upstream version, freezing at the same
> > time should make it possible to achieve this goal.
> I still see that Ubuntu gets more benefit from that decision. Also,
> the release team's stunning silence to questions asked about their
> decisions makes me wonder.
I'm a little bothered by the lack of release team involvement in
the discussion, but I wonder if the reason isn't simply that it's
probably pretty hard for them to pick a way of responding that won't
be misinterpreted to fit folks predisposition to argue that "Ubuntu
are thieves!" or "everything's always decided behind closed doors!" or
I don't know of a solution to that, beyond just accepting you'll be
misinterpreted and responding anyway.
Maybe a stylised debate would work -- ie, pick a couple of people who
can debate civilly, randomly assign positions under consideration, and
let them make the best arguments they can for those positions, then
see what falls out. Basically, just like school debates, though with
more points for substance than rhetoric. I'd find that fascinating to
follow/participate in, personally.
Alternatively, one of the ideas suggested while I was DPL that I didn't
end up getting a chance to try was having regular "ask the DPL" sessions,
where anyone can mail in questions, then every couple of weeks the DPL
selects a few of them and gives answers. Kind of along the lines of Google
Moderator, perhaps. Maybe something like that could be intriguing, anyway.