Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:17:46AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> I spend a log of time with my upstreams, and I am trying to
> implement the philosophy that any change in my packages be trated as a
> bug (whether or not it is in the bts), and sent upstream. I use
> upstream bug trackers, and upstream mailing lists, accommodating the
> author. Very rarely do I see such feedback coming from Ubuntu (the
> SELinux maintainers are the the pleasant exception).
> If Ubuntu were better at feeding back patches into the debian
> bts, well, what you say might have been true.
Why do you assume that there are other modifications to your packages to
*be* fed back?
Here are the set of packages you maintain or are an uploader on that Ubuntu
has modified versions of in karmic:
Three of these are SELinux packages, the fourth is flex; its changelog entry
flex (2.5.35-7ubuntu1) karmic; urgency=low
* Merge from debian unstable, remaining changes:
- Don't run the testsuite on hppa (threaded tests hang).
-- Muharem Hrnjadovic <email@example.com> Wed, 06 May 2009 18:10:12 +0200
You're welcome to this change if you want it - I'll pull a patch out myself
and submit it to the BTS if you think it's relevant in Debian, but I don't
see that flex has FTBFS in Debian - but in any case the Ubuntu hppa port has
been EOLed for karmic, so Ubuntu would otherwise (ideally) drop this patch
the next time there's a flex update to merge from Debian.
You seem to have been operating under a misconception that the *majority* of
packages in Ubuntu have been touched wrt Debian. They have not - the vast
majority of packages in Ubuntu are unmodified Debian packages, as shown by
the graphs on the bottom of <https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html> and
<https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html> - which is for the best given the
relative number of developers working on each project.
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