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Re: Re-thinking Debian membership

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 05:59:40PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> >   Concrete proposal: max(Q, 20) endorsements, two existing members
> >   together can veto. The veto can be done anonymously via the Debian
> >   Account Manager to avoid peer pressure to not veto. The DAM only
> >   counts the endorsements and vetos, and does not make judgement calls.
> >   All endorsements and vetos must happen within 30 days.
> I don’t think there is much peer pressure to not veto, but making them
> anonymous is not a big deal. The important thing is that a veto must be
> motivated; otherwise, two project members could block the whole process.

If you add motivations, then you need someone reading the motivation
and decide whether they are "motivating enough" the veto. I guess, the
original purpose of Lars was avoid this deciding entity.

I'm still not sure about whether I do want it or not, but it is quite
clear to me that you need to decide upon the two.

> > * Membership ends 24 months after they're given, or after the latest
> >   participation in a vote arranged by the project's Secretary. Members
> >   may retire themselves earlier, of course.
> I’d add counting uploads as well as votes, while making the process
> quicker. 12 months seems more than enough, maybe even 6. As long as you
> can easily become a member again later, that’s fine.

ACK on counting uploads. An observation though: only using them we can
lower the bound to something like 12 months; by only counting votes 24
months is reasonable, because it is the time frame in which we can
expect at least two DPL elections.

6 months seem to few to me though, we can imagine DDs maintaining only
a few packages which require relatively low maintenance.


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