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Re: Debian 4.0 finally arrives... does anyone care?

On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 09:56:52AM -0400, David Nusinow wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 08:19:03AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
> > Yo!
> > 
> > http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS5673962628.html
> > 
> > Merely somebody who likes Fedora and (Open)SuSE better than Debian, or 
> > somebody who has a realistic view of the world?  While I'm personally happy 
> > to use etch, I might be a bit biased...
> > 
> > (There are many news items more or less just quoting the release 
> > announcement, there are some that are very positive, but I think where we 
> > learn is how people *don't* like the release, that's why I'm posting this 
> > here.  Note that this is not an attack against the kernel or X people, I 
> > know they did a huge job.)
> Wow. The last thing I expected to see when I wrote that comment was that my
> name would show up in an article somewhere. What I was actually going for
> was to get our actual users excited about what we're doing, not provide
> troll-fodder. I'm no fan of Vaughn-Nichols, and generally consider him a
> total hack. The most notable evidence for this is that our X install stuff
> is almomst identical to Ubuntu's and yet he falls all over himself to talk
> about how great Ubuntu is, but then denigrates us for the exact same X
> setup. Way to do your research.

(sorry, I don't know wtf happened with vim, this line got cut)

I'm not sure how we can make people think of Debian as more "Debian" and less
> "The Father Of Ubuntu", but I do know that we won't be able to avoid these
> types of articles if we can't figure it out and make it happen.
> Anyway, I think we've done a lot of great work for etch, and we can do more
> for lenny. I know I've got my plans for the X stuff, and from the TeX and
> Postgres announcements on -devel-announce, it's clear that others also have
> big plans. None of the stuff I've got in mind will resolve this problem,
> but I'm open to suggestions.

 - David Nusinow

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