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Re: Developers vs Uploaders

On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 02:47:22PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
>   Well at first it is. One of my main sponsoree is Fathi[0]. I sponsor
> him for quite a long time now, I'd say a year at least. The beginning of
> our relationship was indeed really a teacher/student one. [...]

>   But for now something like 6 months, I've nothing to say wrt his
> packages. I merely do cosmetics remarks, he knows his stuff. [...]

>   At least, with the "DM" proposal, he would not depend upon me anymore,
> except for the introduction of NEW packages. That would allow me to take
> new sponsoree, that would need the "teaching" part I quite like to do,
> and that Fathi no longer needs for months.

That sounds like a recommendation...

From what I can see [0], in the past six months you've sponsored about
83 uploads for (afaict):

    Aurelien Gerome             Jeremie Corbier         
    Cyril Brulebois             Jeremy Bobbio           
    Emmanuel Bouthenot          Julien Louis
    Fathi Boudra                Khalid El Fathi
    Gregory Colpart             Ludovic RESLINGER

of which about 52 were for Fathi. To me, that sounds like it meets the
requirement of "sponsored 30 uploads in the last six months" that I
suggested for being able to recommend a DM originally [1].

It seems sensible to me to have the recommendation take the form of a
file that we can just dump directly into jetring. I was thinking something
like this (for holger) looked sensible:

Changed-By: Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>
Comment: adding holger as debian-maintainer
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:25:59 +1000
  ajt - http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2007/01/msg00037.html
  kaol - http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2007/01/msg00038.html
  zobel - http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2007/01/msg00043.html
  tolimar - http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2007/01/msg00044.html
  sgran - http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2007/01/msg00044.html
  93sam - http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2007/01/msg00047.html
  neilm - http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2007/01/msg00048.html
  damog - http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2007/01/msg00050.html
  [output of keycheck.sh]
NM-Page: https://nm.debian.org/nmstatus.php?email=debian%40layer-acht.org
Action: import
  [ascii armoured key to be imported]

The required fields are Changed-By, Comment, Date, Action and Data;
the others are just useful extra information for people who're trying
to find out about the maintainer.

The advocacy there is probably well above what should be necessary
(it was an AM report, after all), but some brief comments on what
they're like from various DDs who've worked with them is still probably
worthwhile. Some brief comments to the effect that they'll follow the
social contract and Debian policies, and that they understand how to
keep their key secure might be worthwhile too.

I guess Fathi's worked closely with Daniel Glassey (clucene-core), Gustavo
Franco (desktop-base) and Mark Purcell (KDE extras) so some of them
might have nice things to say about him that might be worth including.
If any of the KDE team or Enrico (as his AM) have any comments, likewise.

Anyway, what do you think about having a go at creating a jetring stanza
something like the above for Fathi?


[0] cd queue/done
    touch -d '6 months ago' ~/date
    find -maxdepth 1 -newer ~/date | 
         xargs grep -l 'Arch.*source' | 
         while read a; do gpgv "$a" 2>&1 | 
         grep -q A1EE761C && (grep -q "Pierre Habouzit" $a || echo $a);

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2007/03/msg00074.html

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