Re: Social Committee proposal
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:19:59 -0200, Gustavo Franco <firstname.lastname@example.org> said:
> On 1/26/07, Steve Langasek <email@example.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 05:55:03PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> > > We can determine social policy by discussion and, if necessary,
>> > > by voting. I'd rather see consensus, and, more specifically,
>> > > see the soc-ctte spell out the social norms and if the
>> > > developer body disagrees with it, and can't convince the
>> > > soc-ctte via discussion, they can force a change via a GR.
>> > Voting implies the tyranny of the majority; and I would
>> > expect
>> > the social and cultural norms to be heavily biased towards
>> > white, male, occidental euro-american social and cultural modes;
>> > since such is the composition of the voting population.
>> > I am not sure I want to be governed by such a social
>> > /cultural
>> > policy.
>> Why do you think the establishment of a "social committee" would
>> have any bearing at all on whether you're subject to a tyranny of
>> the majority where cultural norms are concerned?
> FUD! When you want to stop any kind of changes, that's easy point
Congratulations. You have the distinction of sending the
first flame to this discussion. Accusing either Vorlon or I of
spreading Fear, uncertainty, and doubt about this discussion, rather
than participating in it in earnest and raising honest misgivings, is
an insult; and you are the first to drag this discussion down to the
usual debian flame war. Pretending to know my motives, with no
explanation how you arrived at such mind reading abilities or
conclusions about my motives, makes discussion much harder.
Don't you think that flaming, and insulting fellow developers
is exactly the kind of activity that should be frowned upon by the
forth coming social committee? Indeed, by jumping into the
discussion with a flame first casts serious doubts about your fitness
to lead, or even be a part of, the so called ombudsman or social
I am disappointed. I would be happy if your future behaviour
proves my misgivings unfounded.
> out that a social committe will work as a censor before it starts,
> before we discuss use case scenarios and under which rules soc-ctte
> will play it role.
I think it is important to lay out certain ground rules, and
cautionary notes, and guidelines for conduct of the committee
before we start doing nitty gritty design decisions.
Minors in Kansas City, Missouri, are not allowed to purchase cap
pistols; they may buy shotguns freely, however.
Manoj Srivastava <firstname.lastname@example.org> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/>
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