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Re: Proposal: The DFSG do not require source code for data, including firmware

On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 05:39:43PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote:
> [Sven Luther]
> > To add to that, if i where Peter, i may feel slightly offended by the
> > tone of your reply as well as the content of it.
> I wasn't offended.  AJ's tone wasn't derogatory - he made some
> observations and offered some advice.  He's quite right that my views
> are not those of a developer, and that when I say I will "expect"
> something to happen, this is a user expectation, no more.


> It is also true that saying something is a red herring, without
> explaining why, is probably negligent.  What I meant is this: the
> status of software which Debian does not ship (the software embedded in
> hardware) is outside the scope of the Social Contract, and thus it's
> not meaningful to argue about the status of software Debian ships by
> comparing the two.  And if a comparison is not meaningful, introducing
> it into an argument constitutes a red herring.

Well, it was evident from your post that that was what you meant. 

> > You are the DPL, and as thus speak with the authority given by the
> > whole project
> He didn't use the leader@debian.org address.  It was clear to me that
> he was speaking as a developer, not as the DPL.

he doesn't use the leader@ address even on issues related to his DPL role, as
i well know, so this is no guarantee.


Sven Luther

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