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Re: Call for a new DPL mediation ... This will be the only thread i will reply to in the next time about this issue.

On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 10:50:57AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> MJ Ray <mjr@phonecoop.coop> writes:
> > Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> wrote:
> >> Have you seen the Geek Social Fallacies?
> >> <http://sean.chittenden.org/humor/www.plausiblydeniable.com/opinion/gsf.html>
> >> I think Fallacy #1 sheds quite a bit of light on this particular situation
> >> and the reactions to it.
> > I think the inclusion of *humor* in the URL sheds quite a bit of
> > light on how seriously it should be taken.  I am amazed that it
> > is again cited to justify debian social malfunction, apparently
> > seriously.
> Intended as humor or not, Fallacy #1 is a pretty good start at an
> explanation of this particular Debian social malfunction as I see it.
> (The rest of the document is much less useful, in my opinion.)

Your analysis and analogy misses a complete aspect of this issue, and namely
that in this case it is not simply a party or otherwise event with no
importance, but that the rejection in question has an impact on the work being
done, and thus impacts our users, and so, is not in accord with our social
contract, where we engaged ourself (at least those who are DDs), to put free
software and our users as our priorities, and thus before injured-pride and
personal vengeance, and other such exclusion-justifications.

So, this fallacy may sheed a light into the Ted/Jonathan-Debaconf events, but
is totally off-topic here.

You may disagree on this, but i urge you to investigate the background of such
malfunctions before you comment on them in the future.


Sven Luther

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