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Re: Information abount packages.d.o and experimental

On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 10:45:52AM +0100, Noèl Köthe wrote:
> is it possible to get information about the problem with packages.d.o

packages.debian.org was disabled because the load of the machine hosting
it, saens.debian.org, which also is our only ftp.debian.org at the
moment, rose to 141.32, 135.82, 135.71, as on January 4th, due to
amongst others a cron job from packages.debian.org started in 2005 still
running -- and probably more. packages.debian.org was already very slow
for days, as multiple people noticed on IRC.

Therefore all nonstatic pages were disabled by DSA to keep
saens, and hence ftp.debian.org, working. The maintainer of it is
informed, I don't know the further status of it.

> and the experimental problem?

Eh, considering I'm member of the ftp-master team, what problem are you
talking about? There isn't any mail about any problem in my ftpmaster
inbox that I can see, nor any bug filed.

The only thing I can think of you must've been referring to is the

A while ago, the actual Packages and Sources files were moved to
dists/experimental instead of project/experimental, where they were
historically, but that change should not affect anyone using normal apt
sources.list syntax in their sources files, as that will still do the
right thing, and actually, now without relying on a symlink, but because
of the correct location of things now.

The original intent was to have a symlink from project/ back to dists/,
but because of a rsync misfeature, it is not possible anymore for the
Debian archive to have a directory replaced by a symlink... so a symlink
called "experimental-is-in-dists-now" instead was created at that spot.
Moving the symlink to 'experimental' again might cause issues for
mirrors having a period of not updating and later on starting again, and
nobody should've been using the project/experimental way of accessing
experimental anymore anyway. I think it'll be better to have it not
reappear, also considering that so far nobody has complained at all, and
by now, most of the remaining users of that location must've switched
away from it...

Personally, I think there are more interesting things happing in Debian
that are worth d-d-a coverage than moving some symlinks around, though
(well, unless it's for releasing a new stable Debian version, I guess).


Jeroen van Wolffelaar
Jeroen@wolffelaar.nl (also for Jabber & MSN; ICQ: 33944357)

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