On Thursday 22 December 2005 12.08, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 11:23:32AM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > Ah. To me, that is quite a bit of the missing piece of information on > > why you feel this GR is needed. To me the GR sounds very much > > wishy-washy, kind of 'let's appoint some people who might then do some > > work.' With what you say here, I can see the motivation for this GR. > > Also, it becomes clearer as it's apparently not clear whether the > > security team are delegates - I assumed they were (and feel they should > > be). > > > > Maybe - is it time to clear this issue now? > > Well, this would not be "skipping over" worrying about the delegation > question, as Anthony suggests. Correct. > The only point I see in establishing that existing security team members > are delegates is if you plan for the DPL to rescind their delegate status > (or threaten to, I guess). Or to propose that the DPL just delegates the people to the tasks aj proposed. For me, this requires clearing the status of the current secteam members, because I don't think having 'delegated secteam members' alongside 'pre-delecation secteam members with unclear status' is a good idea. > > Back to the topic at hand: Can't Joeyh, Steve and Micah just be added > > to the security team[1] > > Er... there's quite a difference in scope between "talk to the security > team about existing processes and try to help identify possible > improvements" and "sit on the security team". I sure haven't agreed to > the second, Point taken. > and I don't think a GR (or unilateral delegation) is a > particularly good way to choose members for a *team*, either. Nobody talked about unilateral. See the disclaimer both aj and I mentioned? Actually one of the reason I don't feel a GR should be used here is that I feel that would exactly be an unilateral action, potentially antagonizing the current security team. At least until that the current secteam indicates that this GR is welcome to them. cheers -- vbi -- Beware of the FUD - know your enemies. This week * The Alexis de Toqueville Institue * http://fortytwo.ch/opinion/adti
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