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Re: Possible violation of the Debian trademark



On 2004-04-13 00:15:05 +0100 Michael Banck <mbanck@debian.org> wrote:

On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 07:16:02PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
It would be nice if there were a few more obvious links, but I'm not sure we can stop them. At least in trademark laws that I know, one can use a trademark accurately and the holder cannot prevent it.
Uhm, but they're using www.debian-desktop.org, which surely violates our
namespace?

There may be registrar rules to stop it. That is not a "violation of the Debian trademark" like the subject of the email says.

Can we show that debian-desktop.org is being used abusively, invoking UDRP <URL:http://www.icann.org/udrp/>? AFAICT, "debian-desktop" would need to be judged "confusingly similar" to "debian" (anyone know about this lawyerbomb?), that they have no right to use the mark (probably true) *and* the domain is used in bad faith. Used in bad faith is holding to ransom (not the case here), deliberately blocking trademark-holder use (unknown, but looks unlikely), disrupting a competitor (no), or trying to increase traffic for commercial gain through confusion with the trademark (said "community website" and carries no ads, so seems unlikely).

If they'd use just a random domain and go talking about Debian, that
would be fine, but I'm /really/ uneasy about them having that domain.

It's a guy developing desktop stuff for debian. I think debianplanet.org and debianshop.com are more confusing (and they're really not very confusing, well apart from debianshop.com not working on a no-JavaScript no-popups browser, but that's confusing in a different way).

BTW, their content changed back to something much more neutral and
non-commercial (basically, a guy talking about his packages) when I just
checked again.

Yes. I saw the more commercial edition and I thought that was mostly fine too. The "plain" edition is even less likely to confuse people that it is a debian project site.

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