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Bug#210879: Reopen: revise odd language in 'constitution.txt' -- "K Developers" ... "not integers"



On 14 Oct 2003, at 18:55, MJ Ray wrote:

> > Are you familiar with the passage in question? 
 
> I believe so.  I cannot read Manoj's mind either, however, so cannot
> determine his opinion of it, other than as expressed. 

This here bug was closed the first time on 10/3/03.  I reopened it on 10/9/03, 
with two messages.  The first message replied to Suffield, the second to 
Burrows.  

That 10/9/03 post to Burrows had, by my count, 127 lines of fairly detailed 
critique about the bug itself, not including the rough-housing.  

One hour later, the bug got closed for the second time, by MS, who said:  

	"If you do find anything substantive to add to the report, please do so."  

With a question-begging aside:  

	"pending any evidence of a real flaw."

I reopened it and asked MS on the 10th, did he read the Burrows stuff?  Not 
even a "yes" or "no" from MS, who closed it again, with the unhelpful comment:

	"Please do not reopen this bug unless you have anything new to add."

So there's 127 lines of new stuff in there.  Not a word about any of it by MS, 
who ignores even requests to verify whether he's ignoring it.  Ergo, he ain't 
readin' my stuff.  Which again, is s'aright by me.  But closing bugs without 
reading them is not.  

Your alternative theory of Manojian exegesis paints an even darker picture of 
MS' method.  Manoj reads things through, develops considered opinions of them, 
and then WITHHOLDS said opinions and all signs of having given matters any 
consideration like some glowering parent of a dysfunctional family.  Oh that'd 
be much more to his credit...  

> > 'aristocrat' was a tweak at Manoj's philosophy
 
> Please keep such convoluted personal attacks completely off of the 
> BTS.  (That applies to all, of course.)

If an administrator misbehaves in a peremptory manner that's only too 
consistent with a severe philosophy that he himself takes the trouble to 
publicly evangelize, then his philosophy may be relevant.  That's nothing 
personal though.  

MS believes in comparing himself and his friends to "Atlas", (I'm "one tiny 
little cell in atlas" says he), and muses that without Atlas, who might shrug 
and walk off at will, all the ingrate nonproductives would be sorry.  

(In classical mythology Atlas CAN'T walk off -- he's condemned to holding up 
the world for past sins, (either bad manners or insurrection, says the 
Britannica), and isn't the kind of character or titan you'd think Debian 
developers would relate well to.  Unless Debian Linux is a place of punishment 
for bad manners.)  

Other harsh MS quotes: 

	"I certainly do not work on Debian for the sake of the unwashed masses"...

	"The[re] is a certain virtue in selfishness."

Some taglines of MS:

	"It had to be said: the world is perishing from an orgy of
	 self-sacrifice." Howard Roark, in Ayn Rand`s _The Fountainhead_

	The greatest productive force is human selfishness. Robert Heinlein

Maybe I'm only trying to cast a fog over the issue with more irrelevant trivia, 
but I think those ideas fit right in with hasty bug closing.  




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