Re: is Debian an anarchist organization/project?
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 07:06:40PM +0100, Matijs van Zuijlen wrote:
MC>> Debian developers wouldn't need to grow their own food, because
MC>> they could trade their code for food. We have lots of users. I'm
MC>> sure that open source developers in general would all be fed, if
MC>> society found our work useful, which they do.
MvZ> Ok, so if I combine this with:
JW>> Or maybe, every individual needs to BE an army? One could have a
JW>> kalashnikov in the kitchen, an RPG in the attic, and sniper rifles
JW>> here and there...
MvZ> it seems that I don't have to grow my own food, but I do have be
MvZ> an army. Personally, I'd much prefer growing my own food to being
MvZ> an army. It seems, this way, anarchism does not give me the
MvZ> freedom to not own weapons and know how to use them.
Not exactly, anarchism just says that you _can't_ have freedom without
being an army.
Actually, `army' is a wrong word, it is too short and can be
misunderstood if given no further explanation. Here it means that having
freedom Build-Depends: _and_ Depends: on being able and ready to defend
it. Compare with with quote:
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once.
-- Lazarus Long
Speaking about food, you don't have to have freedom to not to have to
grow your own food :)
If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its
freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money it
values more, it will lose that, too.
-- W. Somerset Maugham
You see, you can have food without freedom, but you must have freedom to
ensure that you will still have food tomorrow.