Bug#158533: marked as done (project: qmail is installed on murphy)
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From: "Brian M. Carlson" <karlsson@hal-pc.org>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: project: qmail is installed on murphy
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Package: project
Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-27
Severity: serious
Justification: violates Social Contract 1, 4, and 5 (maybe others)
The subject says it all. qmail is installed on murphy.debian.org. qmail
is non-free. Debian should not be using non-free software on its own
systems. I will quote from the Social Contract to show why this is so.
"Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software" is very clear, I think. "[W]e
will never make the system depend on an item of non-free software." Your
systems are depending on items of non-free software. The default
mail-transport-agent for installation is exim, and that is what most
other machines run, but not murphy. "Thus, although non-free
software isn't a part of Debian, we support its use, and we
provide infrastructure (such as our bug-tracking system and mailing
lists) for non-free software packages." I think the "support" you meant
here was "provide quality assurance for" not "endorse". I think running
qmail is the latter. Also, note that "non-free software isn't a part of
Debian". So it should not be on your machines. "We will be guided by the
needs of our users and the free-software community. We will place
their interests first in our priorities." I'm sorry, but it does not seem
like you have the interests of the free-software community first by
running qmail.
I have included two telnet sessions: one is with murphy, and one is with
a friend's machine, which is also a Debian machine running qmail. The
dead giveaway is that even with an EHLO, qmail is silent about the
software which is running.
Transaction with murphy.debian.org:
bmc@stonewall:~$ telnet murphy.debian.org 25
Trying 65.125.64.134...
Connected to murphy.debian.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
ehlo stonewall
220 murphy.debian.org ESMTP
250-murphy.debian.org
250-PIPELINING
250 8BITMIME
rset
250 flushed
quit
221 murphy.debian.org
Connection closed by foreign host.
Transaction with decoy.wox.org:
mc@stonewall:~$ telnet decoy.wox.org 25
Trying 206.180.155.20...
Connected to 206.180.155.20.adsl.hal-pc.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 decoy.wox.org ESMTP
ehlo stonewall
250-decoy.wox.org
250-PIPELINING
250 8BITMIME
rset
250 flushed
quit
221 decoy.wox.org
Connection closed by foreign host.
-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux stonewall 2.4.18-k7 #1 Sun Apr 14 13:19:11 EST 2002 i686
Locale: LANG=3DC, LC_CTYPE=3DC (ignored: LC_ALL set)
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