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Re: An ammendment (Re: Formal CFV: General Resolution to Abolish Non-Free)

Steve Greenland <stevegr@debian.org> writes:

> On 13-Jun-00, 01:30 (CDT), John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> wrote: 
> > Hamish Moffatt <hamish@debian.org> writes:
> > 
> > > On Sat, Jun 10, 2000 at 03:30:04PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> > > > What do we need this in a GR for?
> > > 
> > > To reaffirm the principles you are working to erode.
> > 
> > Your principles are the support and spreading of non-free software?
> > Just what is wrong with eroding them?
> > 
> Will you please stop equating "I want to provide the best experience
> for our users" with "I support non-free software at the same level
> of enthusiasm I support free software". They are not equivalent

If you happen to believe that you want to provide what in your narrow
view is the best experience, license be damned, that that's exactly
what you're saying.

Furthermore, if you attempt to assert that I am working to erode any
sort of fundamental principle of Debian, I suggest that you ought to
re-examine the proposed GR.

> Yes, it's a compromise. But so is your position: if we drop non-free,
> then we *will* lose users. Some of those users will switch to a

Why?  Nobody has yet shown me what is so hard about editing
sources.list.  Nobody has yet shown me why merely being on
debian.org means that it has to be associated with the Debian

> distribution that includes non-free software, probably without
> distinguishing such software, and we lose the ability to woo those users
> away from such software. That may be less net harm to community, or it
> may be more: I don't know, and neither do you.

If you believe that you do not know, then it would seem ill-advised of
you to claim that you do know a few sentences prior.

John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org>                       www.complete.org
Sr. Software Developer, Progeny Linux Systems, Inc.    www.progenylinux.com
#include <std_disclaimer.h>                     <jgoerzen@progenylinux.com>

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