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Re: why not replace individual programs?



On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 04:13:08PM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote:
> >>>>> " " == Christian Surchi <christian@firenze.linux.it> writes:
> 
>      > On Sat, Jun 10, 2000 at 06:30:10PM +0200, David N. Welton
>      > wrote:
>      ...
>      > Maybe popularity-contest could help us. We know that pine and
>      > netscape are very important. Mozilla exists, but what about
>      > pine? It si possible to "muttify" pine, but is this enough?
> 
> Is popularity-contest in any task package? It should be installed (or
> the user should be queried if its ok to be installed) on mail capable
> systems. Far to less users know of it I think.

perhaps MTAs should suggest it

> 
>      > Here a list of non-free software and possibile free
>      > alternatives:
> 
>      > * acroread -> xdpf or xpdf-i
> Not yet.

you can use gv. It has its limitations though

> 
>      > * pgp -> gnupg (even if to handle older keys we need idea and
>      >   rsa modules that are not free)
> Isn't the patent running out soon?
> 
>      > * application made with xforms: xfmail -> there is archimedes,
>      > clone in gtk, but not usable now
> anyone using it? What does the popularity contest say about it?
> 
>      > lyx -> ?
> klyx?

from lyx page:
KLyX is still beta, while LyX is stable.

and lyx is aming at toolkit independence, so things may improve in 
the future (it is taking a bit longer than expected though).


> 
>      > * mpeg players: we have smpeg-gtv, so can we avoid ucbmpeg or xanim?
> I've used mpeg_encode regulary in the lost months. Just for that
> ucbmpeg is needed.

I have videos where smpeg does not recognise sound in them

> 
>      > * other video players, I think no alternatives, only xanim with its
>      > modules

...

> 
> 
> As a conclusion one can only say, we need non-free.
> 

no matter how some people do not like the idea, you are right


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