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Re: General Resolution: Removing non-free [x-post from -devel]



** On Jun 10, John Goerzen scribbled:
> grendel@vip.net.pl (Marek Habersack) writes:
> 
> > > So what if Netscape is missing from unstable?  Users aren't running
> > > unstable, and developers are sufficiently mature to know how to deal
> > > with the situation themselves.
> > Is 'sufficiently mature' supposed to mean 'do it yourself if you want it'?
> 
> It means that if you are running unstable, you should know how to deal
> with instability.  Don't run unstable otherwise.
But I will. I just doubt anyone with less motivation than most of us here
have to use Debian, will make the effort to package anything for himself.
They'll just switch to some other distro.

> > > Having them on any other FTP site would mean the same, wouldn't it?
> > No. For the vast majority of users these packages belong in the Debian
> > *infrastructure* - people feel that they can get support (regarding Debian
> > issues with these packages) from Debian developers - and that's the fact. if
> > they are sent away to some other ftp site they will feel orphaned
> > debian-wise, and they will have every reason to feel so. Because if their
> > taken-from-elsewhere copy of Netscape .deb will fail they will ask for help
> > on some netscape support list. There, in turn, they will learn that the
> 
> Or they could still ask for help on debian-user, as they can now.  OR
> the maintainer.  Or whatever other non-free infrastructure people may
> assemble.
Oh, no. You are contradicting yourself *again*. Answering questions on
debian-devel is *supporting the software* (unless my English is so weak that
I fail to understand the meaning of this word) - and your GR moves NOT to
support the software. Got any (reasonable) answer to that?

marek

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