Re: PB G4 Installation
On 5/21/20 2:49 AM, userm57@yahoo.com wrote:
> On 5/20/20 5:59 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> On 5/20/20 10:32 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix the GRUB configuration to
>>>> allow booting of Mac OS X partitions? I'll study the man pages, but if
>>>> I can't get it to work, I'll need to install yaboot instead.
>>>
>>> Someone on this mailing list explained how to fix that. I think that was
>>> last month or so. Or maybe the mailing list member in question will read
>>> your mail.
>>
>> Btw, contributors to fix this issue are welcome.
>
> Thanks. Google found some articles related to this; I will take a look
> at those and see if there is anything helpful. Meanwhile, yaboot works
> on the PB G4 in Debian SID to boot Mac OS Tiger, Mac OS Leopard, Debian
> 7.8, Debian SID and Gentoo. The Debian 7.8 version did not work, likely
> because that version's ofpath was somewhat buggy.
Yaboot is unmaintained and doesn't support modern ext4 filesystems. It isn't
really an option therefore.
>>>> And I have these additional comments and suggestions (some of these may
>>>> be out of scope of the Debian PPC unsupported port):
>>>>
>>>> 1) I know Debian has opted to use systemd instead of sysvinit; however,
>>>> there are valid reasons (mostly resource related) to opt for sysvinit on
>>>> some systems. For example, on a PowerBook G3 Wallstreet, 266 MHz, 384
>>>> MB memory, sysvinit runs better than systemd. This is not an invitation
>>>> to re-open (or start a new) systemd discussion, it is a request to allow
>>>> installation of packages that shouldn't require systemd, such as
>>>> synaptic, to be installed without also installing systemd. Fortunately,
>>>> Xfce can still be installed without systemd.
>>>
>>> This isn't really something I can change, sorry. You can just install sysvinit
>>> and it will work. Whether certain desktops work without systemd is basically
>>> a decision that has been made upstream.
>>
>> And I would like to add here: Not a single Debian Developer is opposed to
>> such changes, it's just that the majority doesn't care which is why the
>> people who want such flexibility will have to help with that work.
>>
>> I think there is still the debian-init-diversity team [1] which certainly
>> is always looking for new contributors.
>>
>> Adrian
>>
>>> [1] https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/debian-init-diversity
>>
>
> ok, thanks. I'll see whether I'm able to contribute anything to that
> team. Strictly speaking, though, I'm just asking for non-systemd
> versions of packages when possible, such as synaptic. I think there's
> also a non-systemd version of Gnome. I can always download these myself
> from their respective authors and compile without systemd options, or
> use versions from Gentoo.
The problem is that it isn't a "just non-systemd versions". What you are
asking for requires tremendous efforts from a distribution point of view.
It's hard to justify such efforts when in the end there are just three
users for such a configuration.
Adrian
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