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Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

Hi Brian,

I appreciate your response, but I'm not quite certain about what you're driving at.  Do you need a kernel or something?  I've been able to upgrade to Ubuntu Dapper on my Wallstreet PowerBook, and it's using kernel 2.6.15-26, I believe.  I'll have to confirm that the next time I look.  I haven't yet been able to upgrade to Debian; I'm not even sure I know how to.  It should be as simple as changing the references in the /etc/apt/repositories.lst and then applying apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade, shouldn't it?  Is there anything else I should be doing?  There's some failure in the download at that point; apparently the repositories I'm using are failing or something.


On 8/20/06, brian <cymraegish@yahoo.com> wrote:
where we resumed this thread a few days ago, this
was exactly where i had got stuck in debian, ie
upgrading from the previous release "in place".

there are two stumbling blocks i have found here:

1) getting past the transition from kernel 2.6.8-3 to
2.6.16-2 required presently by debian. note you
having the 2.6.12 in ubuntu is i feel precisely what
i am needing/ missing now in debian.

2) the initrd or initramfs package needed by powerpc
arch (not by i386) to boot a runnning system to get
it to the state where it can mount the hard drive,
this package has something wrong.
    the initrd produced by upgrading in debian from
sarge to etch (kernel related portion only, initially)
being 4 times larger got me curious. further
investigation, reveals it is trying to load every
available module. it only needs to get to ide-disk
(assuming that is what your root is on, not scsi).
    the working tools to identify the needed module,
altho self-test options claim they can make the jump
with mkinitrd or mkinitramfs, they do not do the job.
    the new ramdisk package, yaird, recognizes it
cannot make it and refuses to produce a bogus rd,
     now i am confusing, sorry, but somewhere one
of these programs told me to try at least a 2.6.11
kernel, that is i need an intermediate kernel.

is that all clear now ?

i am not saying that this is the only way
but it would perhaps help with the hassle the
other guys were talking about, doing things
by hand and not automated ( am not sure if we
have enough detail to verify that but it sounds
like what i was considering as a last resort)


--- Harold Johnson <harold.johnson@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh, and since I forgot to mention it, the kernel
> version I currently (at
> this moment) have installed is 2.6.12-9; that's
> after simply installing
> Breezy.  Once I upgrade to Dapper again, I'll be
> using whatever version that
> is -- or I'll jump to Debian and do the same.  I'll
> try to remember to post
> that version number here so that you'll know if I
> got up to 2.6.16 using my
> method.  All I know for certain is that I've been
> able to get to Dapper
> using this installation method in the past.
> Harold
> On 8/19/06, Harold Johnson
> <harold.johnson@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > You have great timing; I wouldn't have had that
> answer for you earlier
> > today, because I wasn't certain which kernel
> version I had installed.  I am
> > writing down the entire process of setting up a
> triple-booting system, which
> > will be running Linux, OS X, and OS 9.  (This has
> been done many times
> > before, I'm sure, but not by me!)  Thus far, I've
> installed OS 9, Ubuntu
> > Linux, and I'm currently installing OS X (Panther)
> on the third (and final)
> > partition.
> >
> > I'll be adding to some online documentation, but
> hopefully the following
> > info. will fill in some of the gaps:
> >
> > -- 2 Mac OS (hfs+) partitions and one unallocated
> space using an OS 9
> > installation disk.  The first partition will be
> for OS X, the second is for
> > OS 9, and the free space is for Linux.
> >
> > -- After installing OS 9 and BootX, installed
> Ubuntu Server (Breezy).
> > This info. is probably the most helpful for you;
> I've tried on multiple
> > occasions to install the latest flavors of Debian
> using BootX, to no avail.
> > The same goes with the latest Ubuntu versions
> (Dapper); only Breezy installs
> > on my OldWorld PowerBook.  Once I've installed
> Breezy, it's easy enough to
> > upgrade to Dapper by simply editing the
> repositories (replacing all
> > instances of "Breezy" with "Dapper") and then
> using apt-get to update the
> > system.  I imagine it's possible to use this same
> technique to update to the
> > latest version of Debian; wouldn't you think?
> >
> > Thanks for sending along your script,
> >
> > Harold
> >
> >
> > On 8/19/06, Rick Thomas <rbthomas55@pobox.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Aug 19, 2006, at 6:29 PM, Harold Johnson
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In the meantime, I can continue using BootX --
> not a real elegant
> > > > solution, IMHO, but it works.
> > >
> > > Hi Harold,
> > >
> > > What magic did you have to use to get BootX to
> boot a 2.6.16 kernel
> > > for you?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> >
> >

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