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Fwd: Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac




--- brian <cymraegish@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:03:36 -0700 (PDT)
> From: brian <cymraegish@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on
> OldWorld PowerPC Mac
> To: Harold Johnson <harold.johnson@gmail.com>
> 
> where we resumed this thread a few days ago, this
> was exactly where i had got stuck in debian, ie
> upgrading from the previous release "in place".
> 
> there are two stumbling blocks i have found here:
> 
> 1) getting past the transition from kernel 2.6.8-3
> to
> 2.6.16-2 required presently by debian. note you 
> having the 2.6.12 in ubuntu is i feel precisely what
> i am needing/ missing now in debian. 
> 
> 2) the initrd or initramfs package needed by powerpc
> arch (not by i386) to boot a runnning system to get
> it to the state where it can mount the hard drive,
> this package has something wrong.
>     the initrd produced by upgrading in debian from
> sarge to etch (kernel related portion only,
> initially)
> being 4 times larger got me curious. further
> investigation, reveals it is trying to load every
> available module. it only needs to get to ide-disk
> (assuming that is what your root is on, not scsi).
>     the working tools to identify the needed module,
> altho self-test options claim they can make the jump
> with mkinitrd or mkinitramfs, they do not do the
> job.
>     the new ramdisk package, yaird, recognizes it
> cannot make it and refuses to produce a bogus rd, 
>      now i am confusing, sorry, but somewhere one
> of these programs told me to try at least a 2.6.11 
> kernel, that is i need an intermediate kernel.
> 
> is that all clear now ?
> 
> i am not saying that this is the only way
> but it would perhaps help with the hassle the
> other guys were talking about, doing things
> by hand and not automated ( am not sure if we
> have enough detail to verify that but it sounds
> like what i was considering as a last resort)
> 
> brian
> 
> --- Harold Johnson <harold.johnson@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Oh, and since I forgot to mention it, the kernel
> > version I currently (at
> > this moment) have installed is 2.6.12-9; that's
> > after simply installing
> > Breezy.  Once I upgrade to Dapper again, I'll be
> > using whatever version that
> > is -- or I'll jump to Debian and do the same. 
> I'll
> > try to remember to post
> > that version number here so that you'll know if I
> > got up to 2.6.16 using my
> > method.  All I know for certain is that I've been
> > able to get to Dapper
> > using this installation method in the past.
> > 
> > Harold
> > 
> > On 8/19/06, Harold Johnson
> > <harold.johnson@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > You have great timing; I wouldn't have had that
> > answer for you earlier
> > > today, because I wasn't certain which kernel
> > version I had installed.  I am
> > > writing down the entire process of setting up a
> > triple-booting system, which
> > > will be running Linux, OS X, and OS 9.  (This
> has
> > been done many times
> > > before, I'm sure, but not by me!)  Thus far,
> I've
> > installed OS 9, Ubuntu
> > > Linux, and I'm currently installing OS X
> (Panther)
> > on the third (and final)
> > > partition.
> > >
> > > I'll be adding to some online documentation, but
> > hopefully the following
> > > info. will fill in some of the gaps:
> > >
> > > -- 2 Mac OS (hfs+) partitions and one
> unallocated
> > space using an OS 9
> > > installation disk.  The first partition will be
> > for OS X, the second is for
> > > OS 9, and the free space is for Linux.
> > >
> > > -- After installing OS 9 and BootX, installed
> > Ubuntu Server (Breezy).
> > > This info. is probably the most helpful for you;
> > I've tried on multiple
> > > occasions to install the latest flavors of
> Debian
> > using BootX, to no avail.
> > > The same goes with the latest Ubuntu versions
> > (Dapper); only Breezy installs
> > > on my OldWorld PowerBook.  Once I've installed
> > Breezy, it's easy enough to
> > > upgrade to Dapper by simply editing the
> > repositories (replacing all
> > > instances of "Breezy" with "Dapper") and then
> > using apt-get to update the
> > > system.  I imagine it's possible to use this
> same
> > technique to update to the
> > > latest version of Debian; wouldn't you think?
> > >
> > > Thanks for sending along your script,
> > >
> > > Harold
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/19/06, Rick Thomas <rbthomas55@pobox.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Aug 19, 2006, at 6:29 PM, Harold Johnson
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In the meantime, I can continue using BootX
> --
> > not a real elegant
> > > > > solution, IMHO, but it works.
> > > >
> > > > Hi Harold,
> > > >
> > > > What magic did you have to use to get BootX to
> > boot a 2.6.16 kernel
> > > > for you?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Rick
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> i
> 
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