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Re: apt (intentionally?) brain dead?



Hi Michel
Hi All

On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 01:04:59PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 00:13 +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> > 
> > [ ... ]
> > 
> > 
> > Again: Is it brain dead software or a feature?
> > 
> > Or what did I miss?
> 
> Try without --simulate, 

Sure. And risk that apt will remove essential packages? ... :) Apt
being removing stuff is a well-known behavior currently in unstable
Debian, so clearly, Michel, with all due respect: No way. :)

> and you should see. And maybe try digging a
> little deeper before calling something 'brain dead'...

As you wrote: "something" brain dead ... things usually don't have
feelings ... If previously good software is behaving brain-dead we
should say/write that very clearly. After all I'm on Linux, and not on
Windows 98 or Mac OS X, or so ...

And please think about this current apt behavior where you don't want
to install just one package as mentioned, but dozens or more instead -
a typical situation for someone running unstable, I believe. I'd be
definitely lost if apt would tell me then to resolve the dependencies
myself, and manually ...

Additionally: Given the current Debian/unstable situation it's more
than crucial that apt works:

<http://www.debian.org/releases/unstable/>:
""sid" is subject to massive changes and in-place library
updates. This can result in a very "unstable" system which contains
packages that cannot be installed due to missing libraries,
dependencies that cannot be fulfilled etc."

This new apt behavior isn't that new to me .. IIRC I saw it the first
time about 6 or 8 weeks ago. I didn't bother much then. But as it
happened again I simply want to know whether this situation - i.e. apt
says it cannot install although it can do it - is part of a new
feature that I missed or a bug. If it's a bug I can live with it
... for some time ... :) ... If it's a well-known feature now please
let me know.

Best Regards
Wolfgang

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